Posts by Anna Marina

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They Are Going To Start Clamping Down With Staying At Home - Local Needs + GB Update #4

by thedepressedsoul in

many of us have watched the gb #4 update.

most of us jumped for joy when they basically said that there will be no meeting in person for a long time to come.. one aspect we overlooked was how hard they hit home the "love of neighbor".

how this "love" is what makes a true christian and as a result our love for our neighbors will motivate us to stay at home.. well now they released a letter that is instructing all kh's to view this video during their local needs part.

Anna Marina

Yes I guess Star Chamber by Zoom if you make a personal choice to acknowledge their authority. I never attended the Star Chamber when they carried out their act of cruelty towards me (as Biahi says - an attempt to strip my of my dignity (failed) and defame me to those that knew me).

They were so cheesed I didn't attend their first Star Chamber they made no decision and held another one, which I also didn't attend. But before their silly event I turned up to tell them, yet one more time that their actions were contrary to Jehovah and they really ought to stop this bad behaviour immediately. So they didn't. Normal for them.

Guess what? They are reaping what they sowed, now they can turn on each other and they can't escape. Some of them are actually changing colour. They are going red.

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They Are Going To Start Clamping Down With Staying At Home - Local Needs + GB Update #4

by thedepressedsoul in

many of us have watched the gb #4 update.

most of us jumped for joy when they basically said that there will be no meeting in person for a long time to come.. one aspect we overlooked was how hard they hit home the "love of neighbor".

how this "love" is what makes a true christian and as a result our love for our neighbors will motivate us to stay at home.. well now they released a letter that is instructing all kh's to view this video during their local needs part.

Anna Marina

Alanv - it is easier so long as you are ok about being thrown out. The elders are improving at both identifying those who don't go along with the spirit of unity and being utterly ruthless at putting pressure on to comply.

If you are still in and gaming them, that pauses their initial attack on your non-compliance. Then they think about the way round it and try another angle on you.

Strings are getting pulled now with even greater force. So cong members who used to be able to scatter like cats have found themselves in a cage. Yes a big cage, but now you can't disappear quite so well. So if you were fading before Zoom, maybe its easier but post Zoom you'll have to be upfront about leaving.

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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!

by Beth Sarim in

i don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.

omg!!!

just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.

Anna Marina

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Hi Beth Sarim - yes of course Carl was onto something. But the weak point was he was looking to an outside authority. That outside authority itself can choose to change the date, then where are you?

The thing about Eze 40:1 is that it is the final scripture of just 7 that shows the WT's own maths is wrong. Therefore you take Jehovah's Himself as the authority not the authority of secular historians.

Ezekiel and Jeremiah were the prophets Jehovah used to express the numbers/arithmetic. You do the maths and you can see that it is Jehovah HImself who calls them out as wrong.

Result - as Korah opposed Moses so GB oppose Jehovah.

They've got some great videos on the official website about Korah.

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Remember this

by James Jack in

this was my elder bag.

Anna Marina

I love you guys.

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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!

by Beth Sarim in

i don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.

omg!!!

just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.

Anna Marina

Finkelstein

and the new king Jeconiah, who was either 8 or 18, and his court and other prominent citizens

For what it's worth, my guess is Jehoiachin (Jeconiah) was 18 and in 2 Chron it reads 8 becaue the copyist missed off the yod in Hebrew.

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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!

by Beth Sarim in

i don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.

omg!!!

just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.

Anna Marina

Where is the unity Scholar? All except the Watchtower agree that Jerusalem fell in the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar.There's even a high level of agreement that this was also the 11th year of Zedekiah.

But Watchtower pushes the envelope on this one - they go for both the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar and the 1st year of Nebuchadnezzar. In this they play the most brilliant game with the Battle of Carchemish.

It is impressive stuff and they get total agreement on the basis that no one understands what the heck they are talking about. As far as they are concerned the pure language is "er um eh?" And this is an expression of unity which they cherish.

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Inconsistencies is the Preachng Work

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

jw
friends

with the shutdown of the public preaching work.

some take it to mean all preaching in all forms.

other take it to mean it only includes door to door and cart witnessing, but you can do phone witnessing.. what is interesting is that depending which country you live in the direction that was given what to do is different.. two countries (malta and ireland) that i know of were told explicitly not to do phone witnessing.

Anna Marina

Ah Overrated well why not say you are house-bound and ask them to buy you a packet of cigarettes?

I was working with a zealous pioneer sister once (she is now a COs wife), she was delightful and such a kind person. But I nearly fell off the doorstep when a householder asked her to go and buy him a packet of cigarettes and she agreed. Next thing we were at the tobacconists purchasing them for him. Yes ok we clocked up some hours, but the normal method was to walk slowly down a lane following telegraph poles to the most remote building you could find.

If you don't feel comfortable asking for cigarettes, how about some power tools or just a bag of spuds. It keeps them busy and happy and once you've trained them in shopping, why not see if they'd do a bit of housework - keep this up until they twig they are being used. Then you may never see them again.

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How Could We Have Been So Heartless?

by BluesBrother in

i am addressing here those who, like me, spent decades in the organisation that we called “the truth”.

perhaps like me you were brought up in it from an early age.

looking back now i wonder that i could have been so heartless as to believe that the mass slaughter of billions of people was “good news”.

Anna Marina

(2 Peter 3:9) . . .The Lord is not slow in keeping his word, as he seems to some, but he is waiting in mercy for you, not desiring the destruction of any, but that all may be turned from their evil ways.

(Luke 15:20-24) . . . And he got up and went to his father. But while he was still far away, his father saw him and was moved with pity for him and went quickly and took him in his arms and gave him a kiss. And his son said to him, Father, I have done wrong, against heaven and in your eyes: I am no longer good enough to be named your son. But the father said to his servants, Get out the first robe quickly, and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and shoes on his feet: And get the fat young ox and put it to death, and let us have a feast, and be glad. For this, my son, who was dead, is living again; he had gone away from me, and has come back. And they were full of joy.

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Inconsistencies is the Preachng Work

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

jw
friends

with the shutdown of the public preaching work.

some take it to mean all preaching in all forms.

other take it to mean it only includes door to door and cart witnessing, but you can do phone witnessing.. what is interesting is that depending which country you live in the direction that was given what to do is different.. two countries (malta and ireland) that i know of were told explicitly not to do phone witnessing.

Anna Marina

Oh Overrated, show more tender affection :) Find a PIMO who has to count time. Talk about, ice creams, weather, how unreasonable the elders are, then let the PIMO put it down on their report.

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Awesome Video on debunking 1914!!!!! Follow it carefully to the end!!

by Beth Sarim in

i don't know if anyone has stumbled across this video, but it just blew may away.

omg!!!

just goes to show why in dubland they adhere to the 2 witness rule so adamantly and are so anal about it.

Anna Marina

Longlivetherenegades - yes there are no dates in the Bible. It is ranges of time with events.

Our Father, Jehovah created time and He counts time in a awesome manner. The time precision in the Bible makes you gasp when you comprehend it using maths. He uses minimal information and makes you calculate. It is the opposite of brain washing, if you want this info, you have to dig. But if you dig, the easiness of it makes you eyes go wide, for there is such genius. And the accuracy - well if you think looking up at the night sky is quite good, see this! Then say the Bible's not harmonious, dare anyone :)

Silver bullet for WT - Ez 40:1 19.....14

No, it is not a date. It is a range of time.